September 29, 2004

RetroPsychoKinesis

PsychoKinesis is the ability to influence physical experiments with your mind. e. g. You choose head or tail, then I toss a coin and you influence the coin to give what you choosed. RetroPsychoKinesis is the same thing, but backwards in time. e. g. I toss a coin and hold it in my hand, then I ask you to choose and you influence the coin IN THE PAST.

There is a project to study it and find if it exists and the people who possess this ability. Apparently I don't, but let's everyone here try and, if someone here has it, we could buy some lottery tickets. What do you say?

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  • Blogger Gisela Giardino ::


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  • Blogger Gisela Giardino ::


  • JP, what a pleasure to have you back with us, my friend. I missed you a ton, as I said in my email yesterday. I just wanted to make a brief intervention, unfortunately I have not much time to develop a larger comment, though I have the will. I wanted to add this quote I´ve found in the link you posted, which fantastically resumes what my very first reason for the creation of this community:

    "I think that many of the problems we have come from a too narrow scientific paradigm or model of reality which creates a split between the mind of educated people and their feelings and experience. This creates a split in our entire culture which is at the root of our ecological crisis and the sense of alienation and loss of meaning. I think a more holistic and inclusive scientific approach will help heal this split and improve our relations with the natural world around us and each other" Rupert Sheldrake.Shall we are able to do (or start doing) something about this. A big hug to my friends that I love. I am silent... but I am here. =)

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  • Blogger OldCola ::


  • That's a good way to select "paradoxes generators" !
    If you can flip a coin then you should be able to choose a spermatozoid, don't you? That could change History :-)

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  • Blogger Steve Jurvetson ::


  • Well, to pull off this trick, I would give you a "quarter" that was quantum entangled with one that I kept.

    Then a little quantum teleportation would have us saying "Spooky!'

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  • Blogger Gisela Giardino ::


  • And... can people be quantum entangled?

    Could that explain why someone magnetically can resemble other one like a mirror?

    3:58 AM  

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  • Blogger Steve Jurvetson ::


  • or a jigsaw puzzle?

    9:49 PM  

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  • Blogger Gisela Giardino ::


  • you understood me right...

    10:44 PM  

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  • Blogger Steve Jurvetson ::


  • oui.


    et tu?
    ;-)

    8:35 PM  

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  • Blogger Gisela Giardino ::


  • As someone said: "I can understand everything about you"...

    1:12 AM  

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  • Blogger epp ::


  • POPA (JP) - an interesting question you brought up here. Believe it or not, I believe that retropsychokinesis IS possible. Except that:

    I do not think that this phenomenon occurs in the sense that has been projected in movies - that by influencing the past you erase some of it, which then changes the future so that the present becomes so unrecognizable - that it makes a person feel crazy as they encounter the erasing and adding of chunks of reality that do not seem to make sense.* I think that the effect may be a lot more subtle. Kind of similar to the "spirits" that some people have encountered - most often as little "whispers" from the "beyond" or as sudden intuitive flashes that have not arisen from subconscious thought processes. Little bits of guidance or requests to pay attention to certain details - that kind of a thing.

    So from this perspective, there is more likelihood that this sort of a thing would not exactly apply in the tossing of coins and in picking lottery tickets in the way that you suggest.

    Let us first examine the simpler scenario. There are plenty of people who are capable of psychokinesis, by the way, and we do not see them winning all the lottery tickets, or winning at the coin toss... Gambling tends to have an addictive and destructive dimension in this world precisely because people cannot affect the results no matter how hard they try. Other energy factors are at play - the variables that lead to end results are often way more complex than we think. I have heard of people who have received messages about the winning horse, etc. before the race and have won money for themselves and others in the process, but this has been a temporary condition that has allowed these people come into recognition of their own "powers" - so they can go on to do something a lot more beneficial with them.

    In the case of retropsychokinesis, using the unlikely case scenario of the coin tossing, it would seem that the influence would affect not the coin in the past, but the hand of the tosser - or more accurately the mind of the tosser which is linked to the hand neurologically - so that it tosses the coin in a certain way. OR it might involve influencing the mind of the chooser, creating a message for the past and then allowing it to enter into present consciousness.

    Time is not what it seems to be when we look at it from all of its dimensions. All time is now, from a certain perspective. If we can address the child within us who went through trauma and if, as an adult, we learn to deal with the trauma - we can comfort the traumatized child of the "past" that we have carried within us so long and be transformed in the present as adults. This is, to me, much more magical than influencing the results of a coin toss (although this was a good example with which to start) yet also so usual and normal that it does not warrant a second thought about whether it is really possible.

    * Note: I believe that schizophrenic people "suffer" from a condition where they are unable to experience time from the rhythmic process perspective of past-present-future that most of us are use to. They seem to exist in past-present-future simultaneously. The "voices" that they hear, etc. and their interplay in their constantly and unpredictably transforming reality seems to be related to an inability to discern between the past, present and the future. Its not clear whether the neurochemical condition is the cause or the effect of this and I have no proof of this one way or another, but... Once I was involved with a man with very powerful psychic abilities. He demonstrated to me, on many different occasions, that this seemed to be the case indeed. Witnessing "crazy" people on the metro (subway) who seemed completely out of touch with reality (having conversations with invisible beings, etc.), this man would start having mental (silent) dialogues with these people, acknowledging their reality as real and inviting them to join this particular time dimension to share their experiences. These "crazy" people were immediately drawn to him. They came and sat down near him and started to have verbal diologues with him that made complete sense. They had a lot of wisdom to share - which they were unable to do in their previous state of connectedness with time. This man tapped into the particular "reality" that they were experiencing and brought it into the now, enabling these people to participate in "normal" time in a very "normal" way. Unfortunately this was more of a game for this man, an experimentation which was like child's play. He could have become a great healer... Or maybe we should have more respect for these "crazy" people, as some cultures do - believing them to be mystics, sources of valuable information that is not accessible to the ordinary person participating in ordinary time. People with a purpose. Remember also the historical importance of the king's "fool" in being able to bypass restrictions posed on freedom of speech and to tell the truth in a way that was acceptable to the king and his subjects alike. The role of humor (people responded to the fool with laughter) which people associate with this process also serves to balance tensions and facilitate equilibrium between king and subjects. (Humor and hurricanes are energy processes that have a lot in common in that they both serve to diffuse tension and lead to change.) But that is all beside the point... My point is really that a person's perception of time at any given moment in time has a powerful influence on one's ability to influence the realities of the past, the present and the future.

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